Thor Thor’s New Trailer Takes Us Deeper Into ‘The Dark World’ written by John Bierly August 7, 2013 As part of YouTube’s “Geek Week,” Marvel has unleashed the first full trailer for “Thor: The Dark World.” Big on action and even bigger on the character bonds that count the most, the scenes presented here give us new glimpses of Christopher Eccleston’s Dark Elf King Malekith the Accursed, Idris Elba’s Heimdall without a helmet, and the wonderful Tom Hiddleston’s Loki gleefully getting on the wrong side of, well, everybody. (Oh, and how I do love his appraisal of Jane Foster.) Hiddleston was a towering inferno of slither and menace as the voice and face of villainy in “Marvel’s The Avengers,” and he continues to be an essential (and enthusiastic) ambassador to Marvel’s movie audience. There’s lots of Lady Sif (Jaimie Alexander) and Volstagg (Ray Stevenson), but still no solid glimpse of our new Fandral, Zachary Levi, who took over for Joshua Dallas after Dallas had to drop out due to scheduling commitments to ABC’s “Once Upon a Time.” And am I the only one who’s nervous about seeing Thor’s mother (Frigga, played by Rene Russo) embroiled in a vicious sword fight? “Thor: The Dark World” brings the thunder and the wonder to a theater near YOU on November 8! Thor’s New Trailer Takes Us Deeper Into ‘The Dark World’ was last modified: February 21st, 2016 by John Bierly Related Thor: The Dark World 25 comments 0 Facebook Twitter Google + Pinterest John Bierly previous post Bruce Willis Out, Harrison Ford In For ‘Expendables 3’ next post Bald Men Favored for Lex Luthor in Superman Sequel You may also like Loki, Wingman Of Thor October 11, 2013 THOR: THE DARK WORLD Screenwriter Christopher Yost... 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Which would be fine by me, since it would hardly be the first good sequel to a comic book movie with the words “The Dark …..” in it’s title to kill off the love interest. Unrelated, but since there’s no where else to ask this really, will MMM ever cover superheroes in video games? There was a new Zatanna themed trailer for Injustice: Gods Among Us that was released today that made me think of it. stock No John, RR doesn’t worry me near as much as Natalie Portman. Couple line-readings there fell a little flat IMO. As if to say, “here I am, slumming again.” Biggest worry is that Hiddleston will steal the whole movie out from under Thor himself. Asgard looks great. Michael Lalaian Agreed. Her “This is for New York” line didn’t feel anywhere near as powerful as it should have been. It was almost joke. I actually used to be a huge Natalie Portman fan (Leon: The Professional is one of my favorite movies), but as time goes on I just find myself underwhelmed with her, Black Swan aside. Sean Gerber Excellent article, John! Overall, I’m very happy with this trailer and enjoyed it even more than the first one. While I love the idea of making Asgard look as though it’s been around for as long as it has, I didn’t want the majesty of the Real Eternal that Kenneth Branagh established to be completely muted. Thankfully, the shot that precedes Natalie Portman’s “Wow” line shows me I’ve nothing to worry about on that end. Chris Hemsworth again looks and sounds great as Thor. He is not there just yet, but if this movie hits big, Hemsworth will be a few steps closer to one day being to Thor what Hugh Jackman is to Wolverine. Tom Hiddleston is just so much wicked fun as Loki. I can’t wait to see how the feud between the two brothers escalates in this film. I can understand the concerns about Portman’s line delivery. The “New York” line was a little flat for me as well, so hopefully that’s not the take they use in the final film and not indicative of the rest of her performance. There had been reports she did not even want to come back for a second film, so hopefully she’s not phoning it in. That said, superhero films have flourished with average performances from love interests before. Michael Lalaian Do you think they will pull a Downey and offer both Hemsworth and Evans deals to stay on for Avengers films after their respective trilogies are over? I realize its a different situation because in Downey’s case the extension still adds up to six films, which is what Hemsworth and Evans are already signed up for anyway, but maybe they could be locked down for Avengers 4, 5, and 6 without anymore solo films. Personally, I would much prefer actors just showing up for cameos and team films to remind everyone its the same universe than actually recasting for more solo films. Even after Avengers 3, I’d like Downey’s Tony Stark to pop up once in a while in other Marvel films, even if he’s not actually starring in anything. If Hemsworth becomes as inseparable from the character of Thor as you’re suggesting, I’d like something similar with him as well. Sean Gerber I wouldn’t assume that every character is going to survive beyond its respective actor’s contract. Thor and Captain America have both died (and returned), and I actually have a feeling Thor is the most likely of the main quartet to bite the bullet. If they go Ragnarok in a third “Thor” film, uh oh. As for the survivors, which I hope will include Thor, it depends. If Downey is going to continue on with “Avengers” films beyond the third, then I would prefer the other actors do the same, so long as they want to. If and when Downey is done, however, I’m quite okay with changing out all of the originals in one fell swoop. Adrian Edmondson Looks pretty good . Should be interesting in Nov on how this does without Ironman or any Avenger anywhere around . And yeah Portman’s delivery was flat but with it being a quick cut between others threating Loki , have to judge it in full context before I can fully say its so so . I have to say though after the last few MoS trailers , it’s kinda hard for me to get overly excited for this next few cbm movies on the horizon but I hope CATWS changes that , Thor doesn’t really get me all that excited , neither did the Wolverne ( which I enjoyed ) Looking forward to the podcast breakdown on this one guys ! Adrian I was quite impressed with the trailers for Man of Steel, too. Then, sadly, I felt completely underwhelmed by the film. I still saw it three times. Meh While this trailer isn’t as “epic” as Man of Steel’s, I have more faith in Marvel when it comes to these things at this point. Unless the film is reviewed horribly, I think it’ll make a lot more money as it piggy-backs off The Avengers the way Iron Man 3 did. Naes A lot of awesome but random images, random sound bites but I still don’t know what the movie is about. Obviously they don’t have to give the entire plot away, but this still seems more like a teaser. I need a little more narrative. Contrast this with the MOS’s 3rd trailer, TDKR trailers, the 1st trailer to Thor (2010) or the Captain America trailers. Marie i thought it was fine. i thought some images were cool, but didn’t give a sense of what’s going on beside darkness coming. i’m not familiar w/thor & its mythology beyond what i’ve seen in the prior film so far. i honestly can’t get excited for trailers anymore. when i saw im 3, i felt like i’d watched a different film than what was advertised so, it’s more of a wait & see thing for me. Robert Reineke It’s a solid trailer, but I don’t think it’s the kind of trailer that persuades anyone that wasn’t already on board to come along for the ride. Sean Gerber That depends on the definition of anyone who wasn’t already on board. Comic book fans are on board so excluding everyone else, I’d disagree. If we include the growing base of moviegoers who see Marvel films, which now includes some of the mainstream, I agree, but that’s not much of a problem at this stage of the game. What this trailer shows is that Marvel has once again crafted a big superhero action epic with character drama and laughs along the way. That should be sufficient in persuading a significant chunk of that “Avengers” audience to come back. It won’t do “Iron Man” numbers, but “Thor: The Dark World” should outdo its predecessor. Robert Reineke There were a lot of people that went to “The Avengers” and “Iron Man” that skipped “Thor”. I’m not sure how much this trailer makes the case to those that might have considered doing the same for the sequel. What’s the hook for those people? I suppose more Hiddelston is a plus, but I wonder if “This is for New York” satisfies curiosity instead of piquing it. Obviously “Thor: The Dark World” will open bigger than “Thor”. That’s a given. I tend to think that a more story driven trailer that focused on Thor, Loki, Jane, and the villain might have been a stronger choice than one that touched on a bunch of characters that the larger “Avengers” audience might not be familiar with. What should anyone who’s only seen “Avengers” make of Rene Russo in a knife fight? The trailers for “Man of Steel” and “Iron Man 3” focused pretty strongly on their main characters, while I think this one is more all over the place. If I asked you, from just seeing this trailer, “What’s the conflict?” and “What are the goals of the characters?”, I’m not sure I could answer beyond “Thor needs to stop some threat involving darkness.” Perhaps that’s enough post-“Avengers”, but that seems to say more about “Avengers” than the strength of this trailer. Which shouldn’t be seen as too critical of the trailer. It’s good for those that have seen “Thor”, which includes me, and to see where the next adventure goes. It looks bigger if nothing else. Hiddleston looks like he’s going to be a lot of fun. Portman looks contractually obligated. The rest of the cast looks game. It’s a fairly standard but professional trailer for a film that looks like it could be a good “Thor” movie. Michael Lalaian I have to agree with Robert on this one. Something just felt missing and I think it was the lack of new information on what the conflict actually is. I showed the trailer to my girlfriend and her immediate reaction was, “didn’t I see this a few months ago?” It’s true, this just feels like a 2 minute version of the 1 minute trailer from before. Sure, there were new shots and scenes, but no new information. Jane ends up on Asgard, Thor needs Loki’s help, Odin tells us that before the universe there was darkness… we didn’t learn anything new. We didn’t learn /why/ Jane is suddenly taken to Asgard, /why/ the information that Loki has will help Thor, or /why/ this darkness is returning. This seems to be suffering from a little bit of Star Trek Into Darkness syndrome. While I appreciate them trying to keep all the Khan stuff out of the trailers, a lot of STID’s less than stellar box office was attributed to audiences not really knowing what the movie was about based on the trailers. There will be at least one or two more trailers for this before November, so they can still remedy this issue, but if the next trailer doesn’t actually use the name “Malekith” or give a satisfying, yet spoiler free, outline of the plot in a way that an audience can understand, the movie may actually suffer for it. Sean Gerber There were a lot of people who went to “The Avengers” after skipping “Iron Man,” but came back for “Iron Man 3.” A smaller amount will come back for “Thor: The Dark World,” but we’re really talking about how big of a boost the “Thor” sequel is getting, not if it will get one at all. The hook for the “Avengers” audience is one of the heroes of that film having to team up with its lead villain. Why does Thor have to join forces with his evil brother? Many will lineup and spend money to get the answer to that question. Malekith means nothing to the average moviegoer and frankly, neither does Christopher Eccleston. Focusing significantly more on him in the trailer would have been unwise. There’s a very bad, very powerful being Thor will have to fight. That’s good enough. New elements are shown in flashes to suggest there’s more worth seeing, but the strength of this trailer is its emphasis on the familiar. Everyone knows who Thor and Loki are; most people know who Natalie Portman is. As far as the “Avengers” crowd is concerned, familiar characters are being placed in unfamiliar, intriguing positions. The opportunity to find out how and why the characters are in those positions is a better motivator than the barely known villain Thor is fighting (and why) or the goals of each character. Robert Reineke Nobody knew who Bane was either, but that didn’t stop the trailer cutters from building him into a proper villain who could conceivably topple Batman. All we’re getting out of Malekith is “something, something, darkness”. And a trailer that says Thor needs Loki’s help but has him whomping all sorts of bad guys with a joke at the end of how powerful he is. Is Thor an underdog or is he a guy that barely has to work up a sweat? The movie trailer is severely underselling the threat factor, IMO, and selling a mixed message. And a conflict doesn’t have to be simply about beating the bad guy. I’d say Superman’s conflict in MoS is as much about overcoming humanity’s fear as it is about beating the alien threat. None of which should imply that I think the trailer is poor. It’s a good trailer in a standard, Hollywood way which takes a kitchen sink approach of here’s some action, here’s all of our cast, here’s some action, here’s some humor, etc.. It’s not a great trailer. But, there will be more trailers that may address what this hasn’t accomplished. Sean Gerber People may not have known Bane, but by reading any one article or asking one comic book fan about the film, John and Jane Doe could learn he was the one who broke Batman’s back. Most comic book fans don’t or barely know who Malekith is. There were no holdover villains to rely upon, so “The Dark Knight Rises” had to roll with its new baddie. Not to mention, “The Dark Knight Rises” was a direct follow up to what was at the time the biggest, most successful superhero of all time. WB could’ve framed those trailers just about anyway the studio wanted and it all would’ve worked out. Right now, Marvel is selling the evolution of the conflict between Thor and Loki. Thor is forced to work with his evil brother and the intrigue is finding out why. The tension in the conflict is the knowledge that Loki will inevitably betray Thor. I’m sure there will be one more trailer and I’ve no doubt it will expand upon Malekith, but I still don’t believe that will do as much to sell the film to an average moviegoer as the brotherly reunion between two of the main characters in “The Avengers.” Robert Reineke I’ll fully agree that the uneasy alliance between Thor and Loki is the biggest hook of the film. I kind of wish that they had saved it for the climax of the trailer instead of leading off with it. A lot of the trailer is anti-climatic afterwards. For all the talk of “darkness” in the trailer, I note that it ends on a joke. I wonder if it’s still some of that “Iron Man 3 won’t really be dark” reaction going on. They put Pepper in danger at the climax of Iron Man 3, although I don’t think anyone really bought that she died. I wonder if they’ll try the same thing again with Thor in a recurring theme? I kind of think that the only love interest that they’ll follow through with is Peggy Carter, of old age. stock As far as trailers go, Robert, for me, the less I know the better. Its a strange dichotomy since most of them try to tell you the whole story, yet resort to the most blatant cliches to do it. Thor 2 for example: Loki in a glass cell being “interrogated” by Thor. Voice-overs by veteran actors either giving exposition (Odin) or dishing out a convenient threat about how “There is nothing you can do with all your strength.” (Malekith) Cue the ominous music. I must be old because it doesn’t work on me. Even the good ones. And at the theater, hell, its “Lets all go to the..lobby. Lets all go to the ..lobby time for me. Point is, you want to pique my interest, don’t tell me anything. Sean Gerber I’m still a sucker for trailers, but I agree with the sentiment of not really wanting to know the plot, stock. Still, you’re a loyal reader and poster on the site, so I feel compelled to help you out. There may or may not be a movie coming out on November 8 that may or may not feature a superhero who may or may not have been in “The Avengers.” You’re quite welcome. stock LOL, Sean! Robert Reineke I tend to think that the strongest trailers are the ones that leave us with questions to ponder, not the ones that spell out everything in miniature. Of course, you have to give something to give us a question worth pondering, but in general, motivations, goals, and conflicts I think are fair game for a trailer. Resolutions, less so. Michael Lalaian Robert basically explained what I meant by wanting Malekith in the next trailer. I didn’t mean to imply that the audience knows or cares who Malekith is (in all honesty, I don’t even really know who he is and I’m a Marvel guy), but just that the clarity of purpose when it comes to the villain and to the conflict in general is very important to intriguing a potential audience member. The Dark Knight Rises did this really well, and efficiently, in its trailers with the whole “Bane / born and raised on hell and Earth / I am Gotham’s reckoning” clips in the trailers and TV spots. You got his name, you got why he’s in this story. Done and simple. Green Lantern and Star Trek Into Darkness, I feel, really suffered because their trailers were just a collection of cool looking space images and action. No one watching the trailers for either of those movies knew who the villain was or what they wanted. Not that I think that was the only thing that hurt those movies, particularly in the case of Green Lantern, but they were definitely important factors. No one knew who Ivan Vanko was either, but in rewatching the Iron Man 2 trailer, it is very clear with his “blood in the water” narration that he is coming after Stark, it shows what he could do to him (on the race track) and you even get the alliance between him and Hammer with the “you need my resources” line. It’s simple, yet so effective, and it didn’t even “spoil” the personal ties the Stark and Vanko families had. Mark Can’t wait for this movie. It’s great to see such a resurgence in Medieval and Sword and Sorcery in film and TV – whether it be fantastical in the case of Thor and Game of Thrones or more realistically based in the case of the TV series Vikings. It also appears that Thor is gaining in popularity and this movie could be a real big hit. YouTube just published an article that ranked the popularity of superheroes based on the number (and hours) of YouTube views. Batman was first at 3 billion views with Thor second at 2.1 billion. This was followed (in order) by Superman, Iron Man, The Avengers, Spider-man, Captain America, Justice League and lastly Deadpool. Overall this says a lot about the popularity of Superheroes and just as importantly the characters or teams that are the forefront of the public’s interest. It will be interesting to see well Thor does when released. Mark ..oops forgot Wolverine who came in after the Avengers.