Modern Myth MediaThor #151- THOR: THE DARK WORLD Roundtable Review written by Sean Gerber November 10, 2013 THOR: THE DARK WORLD is putting the hammer down on the worldwide box office, making this the opportune moment for a gentlemanly convergence. It is once again time for a Roundtable Review, so please sit back and enjoy as our panel discusses and analyzes the latest offering from Marvel Studios. Have Thor and Loki put forth another epic chapter of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, or has this god lost his thunder? Download HERE. #151- THOR: THE DARK WORLD Roundtable Review was last modified: February 19th, 2016 by Sean Gerber Related MarvelMarvel Cinematic UniverseThor: The Dark World 3 comments 0 Facebook Twitter Google + Pinterest Sean Gerber Sean Gerber is the founder and editor-in-chief of Modern Myth Media. 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However, critically speaking, this is the lowest rated Marvel Studios film on rotten tomatoes, even below Iron Man 2 and The Incredible Hulk. Since there weren’t any dissenters on the panel, any theories on why this really didn’t hit with critics? Do you think that will hurt the word of mouth? It received an A- cinema score, but so did Man of Steel. I think the big difference between those two films is that this is much more of a “fun time,” but could this kill the momentum for general audiences? To be completely honest, if 44% of people in my theater didn’t like this film, I couldn’t notice it. Both times I saw it people were laughing along with it and cheering at the action beats. The Captain America cameo set the theater on fire both times! I also noticed that, more than ever, people weren’t getting up when the credits were over. General audiences are really catching on to Marvel’s tradition of adding things to the end. I would say that both times at least 50% of the audience waited until the very, very end of the credits before getting up. OnTheAir Enjoyable roundtable discussion, Gentlemen! I really liked the film…I think I may have enjoyed the first Thor a little more, but this was without question a fun time at the movies (despite the slow start). I agree with Justin, there was definitely a Star Wars feel, but Paul is also correct…it absolutely had a Masters Of The Universe vibe too! Loki absolutely owned the film for me. Next to Robert Downey Jr., Hiddleston may very well be the MCU MVP! Hemsworth was terrific as well…I loved the growth of the Thor character from the first film. I enjoyed the humor, for the most part. It was certainly unexpected as I was anticipating a darker movie, but it was welcome more often than not. I WILL say that I found Darcy to be hit-or-miss. I thought she was much more naturally funny in the first film, but her humor felt forced at times in this one. When she hit, she hit (such as the Mjolnir pay-off), but I felt she swung and missed a lot as well. There may have been a reason that Sif wasn’t in the film more. If you recall, Jaimie Alexander slipped and fell on set, suffering an injury that took her out of filming for a month. Perhaps there had to be re-writes to compensate for her absence. http://pagesix.com/2012/11/18/slip-fells-action-heroine/ Bring on Captain America: The Winter Soldier! (great cameo appearance by Chris Evans, by the way) That’s the phase two Marvel film that I have been anticipating the most, even before the incredible teaser trailer was released! (other than Avengers: Age Of Ultron, of course) I’m really not a Guardians Of The Galaxy guy, but I will be there opening weekend to continue to support the Marvel Cinematic Universe. I was thinking the other day…there will be a LONG wait between the release date of Guardians and that of Age Of Ultron…9 full months!!! Will that be the longest wait in between MCU films? Naes I saw it twice and really liked it. I’ll probably see it again. I think the first film might have an edge… although this one had fewer of those annoying dutch angles. For any of the fans who are sick of Loki, the relationship between the brothers is what makes things interesting. If you have a charismatic person in a movie series like Loki (someone that the audience can latch onto and who has inexplicably become a heartthrob), you “dance with who brung you” as the old saying goes. I like the fact that they have a villain who is so much smarter than the hero. There’s no matching of wits since Loki will always outsmart Thor. That’s something you don’t see even with the Superman-Luthor or the Batman-Joker relationship. I like that. I’m not sure I want to see Loki solo movie, but I definitely want to see him return. I think it would be an interesting twist in the next Thor movie if it turns out that Loki is a great ruler of Asgard and Thor has to be the “Bilchsteim” and kick him off the throne while all the normal people in Asgard hate Thor for it. Amid all this talk about a Daredevil, Iron Fist and Peggy Carter series, I think Marvel should seriously consider a Sif and the Warrirors Three mini-series on Netflix. I’d rank the movie above Iron Man 2, Incredible Hulk, and (sadly) Captain America but below Avengers, Iron Man, Iron Man 3 and about the same level as the first Thor. It is in good company. I’m hopeful we’ll see Enchantress and Executioner in the Thor 3. A few problems with the movie: 1 Malekith is the least interesting Marvel villain ever and that’s saying a lot. I’d rank him even lower than Tim Roth’s Abomination who at least had a simple character arc. Guy Pearce and Sam Rockwell sort of blurred together. I hated how they made Red Skull in Captain America so bland (a Nazi who is not actually a Nazi… because they want to sell Red Skull action figures to the kids and not have the movie censored in Eastern Europe), but Malekith gave me nothing. I’ve seen the “ancient evil being awakened after 1000s of years” before and I saw the fart cloud of death (the ether) in Green Lantern. I don’t think they should have played the “destroy the universe” card when Marvel has Thanos is its back pocket. Saying you don’t need a lot of depth for a villain because you get depth elsewhere is a bit of an excuse. There is no reason why you can’t have both. There’s no aspect of him that reflects in any way on the heroes. The fact that the other characters are well fleshed out doesn’t excuse the filmmakers from making a compelling villain. 2 They are still unclear about how the Asgardians can travel. Thor can’t get to Earth because of the events of the 1st film but he seemingly goes wherever he wants including Earth. I thought the bitfrost being destroyed cut off the realms. I’ve seen Thor, Avengers and Thor 2 several times and I still do not understand the rules. Even if you explain it to me it doesn’t change the fact that they rules seem to be nebulous. 3 Dr. Selvig suddenly taking out a map and declaring “The Mayans and the Druids gave us coordinates it all leads to Greenwich.” What? 4 I liked the humor with Thor, Kat Dennings, and Jane Foster, but I think they went a little far with Dr. Selvig.