Modern Myth Media MMM #253 BATMAN V SUPERMAN, SUICIDE SQUAD, And The Future Of Comic-Con! written by Sean Gerber July 22, 2015 Now that we’ve had time to watch the trailers for BATMAN V SUPERMAN: DAWN OF JUSTICE and SUICIDE SQUAD several (hundred) more times, we can and will discuss them in greater detail. Just how good does the DC Extended Universe look and which of these two films seems more exciting at the moment? We also look back on the Hall H leak heard ’round the world and examine the future of studio presentations at San Diego Comic-Con when security is still a nice idea, but an unattainable reality. Hosted by Sean Gerber, Robert Reineke, and Dr. Vasilis Pozios. Download HERE. MMM #253 BATMAN V SUPERMAN, SUICIDE SQUAD, And The Future Of Comic-Con! was last modified: February 19th, 2016 by Sean Gerber Related Batman v Superman: Dawn of JusticeSDCC 2015Suicide Squad 10 comments 0 Facebook Twitter Google + Pinterest Sean Gerber Sean Gerber is the founder and editor-in-chief of Modern Myth Media. When he's not writing here, you can catch him as the host of Popular Opinion Podcast, Batman News, and Marvel News! previous post Disney/Pixar’s THE GOOD DINOSAUR Trailer Gives Man A New Best Friend next post JURASSIC WORLD Sequel Set For June 22, 2018 You may also like MMM Podcast #163: Hooked On GUARDIANS OF... February 19, 2014 MMM #255: New Details On BATMAN V... August 3, 2015 MMM #207: GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY Q&A August 11, 2014 MMM #242: KINGSMAN: THE SECRET SERVICE Review February 23, 2015 MMM #192: Marvel Finds An ANT-MAN Director... June 10, 2014 MMM #241: Spider-Man In The MCU, BATMAN... February 17, 2015 MMM Podcast #182: Gareth Edwards Directing The... May 23, 2014 MMM #240: Welcome Home, Spider-Man! You’re In... February 9, 2015 MMM #266: ‘Logan’ and ‘Power Rangers’ trailer... January 19, 2017 MMM Podcast #264: THE ROCKETEER Revisited September 7, 2016 oliver_chang Gentlemen, what’s your reaction to this (keep MOS in mind) https://youtu.be/7qHNfsst8_c Matthew Dickinson Thanks gentlemen, I really enjoyed your analysis especially some of the insight from Dr Vasilis. I was on the fence about the whole ‘vs’ aspect of BvS, but the set-up in the trailer has won me over. I really like how this follows the TDK trilogy pattern with the idea for consequences and blame, but also mirrors it with Batman Begins being about fear, Man of Steel hope, TDK chaos and BvS order or rather control. One concern that remains for me is that, like Sean, A-hole Batman is not my preference, do you think Alfred’s comments from the first teaser, ‘that’s how it starts, the fever, the rage, that turns good men… cruel’ are more of his admonishment of Bruce gunning for Clark? I don’t know if others have suggested this, but I think with the red capes line, the ideas of patriotism and the Superman army could all be Lex stirring up the fear that Superman will lead a revolution against the United States. Re: hall H leaks, clearly the room needs one of those localised EMPs that Bruce uses in disable the cameras in The Dark Knight Rises. Armando Lantigua Hey, gentlemen. Name’s Armando from Brooklyn NY! lol! Huge fan of the show. Do you guys think Jared’s going to make more jokes than Heath in terms of like the definitive comic book interpretation of the character. Heath’s performance was more psychological and subtle with the humor and body language. Do any of you think Jared is gonna be more hyper and jumpy and witty? Thanks! Scott Rogers RE: Superman’s using heat vision on Batman and other peculiar behavior I do think that’s “Superman” in some form. If so, I expect/hope that it’s Superman under Lex’s “spell,” or it’s a clone of Superman developed and “programmed” by Lex. With all the talk of Lex’s using Zod’s DNA to make Doomsday, Bizarro, or some other Superman foe, I wouldn’t be surprised if Lex originally intends to clone Superman, but something goes wrong, and the clone mutates/devolves into that foe. Inferring from the trailer, Lex is present during the Batman-Superman fight and giving his “day vs. night” speech (rhetorically, I guess?). It sounds like a speech a super-villain gives after unleashing some monster created. (See TDK’s Joker explaining his creation of Two-Face to Batman, or, for a much sillier example, Lex’s revealing Nuclear Man to Superman in SUPERMAN IV.) RE: Viola Davis as Amanda Waller As good as Margot Robbie looks, Davis’s Waller might be the best casting in SUICIDE SQUAD. I had always envisioned CCH Pounder for the live-action role, but I think I will like Davis’s portrayal more. But I was glad to at least get Pounder voicing Waller in the Justice League animated series. stock I’m with Sean on the fact that there are too many good things in the BvS trailer to get too worried about how Lex Luthor is portrayed. But I’m still worried. In these type of films, the story is often judged by how good the villain is, and there’s an undeniable ambiguity in this version of Lex. None of the speculation on his influence, (so far) gives me much confidence that he’s going to be a particularly strong villain, wig on or off. Other than him, I have my usual misgivings about a depressed Superman and Ahole Batman, but I like how they filled the trailer with the Easter Eggs only real fans can appreciate. As for Suicide Squad, I’m seeing in both these trailers a spark and hunger that’s been missing from WB and frankly, Marvel of late. The song you hear on this is an old pre-disco Bee Gees song about a guy contemplating suicide. Its creepy and a weird song made creepier here. I don’t know a lot about some of the members, but I like Croc being in it, and I’ll withhold judgement on Will Smith. Jai Courtney will finally get his due. Hey, I liked the guy as Spartacus’ BFF. Maybe speaking in his natural accent will help. Chance A. Pates There are some theories by fans that Leto’s Joker isn’t actually the real Joker. Some people think that Batman killed the real Joker after he tortured Robin, and because of that abuse and torture Robin turned and actually took the mantle of The Joker. Which is a crazy theory if you ask me. If you thought that a lot of fans were mad and upset with Marvel and The Mandarin twist just think how mad they will be if Leto’s Joker was actually Robin at some point. WB would have to be absolutely stupid to make that decision. stock Yes, they would, but they did tell a version of that tale in their animated division. Batman Beyond: the Return of the Joker, had a similar storyline where Robin (Tim Drake version) was implanted with a Joker memory chip, and subsequently turned into the Joker. As bizarre as it sounds, it’s actually one of the higher quality stories with a great Mark Hamill performance. Bob Marshall Batman v Superman 1. I am not sure I watched the same trailer because I think Batman comes across as the ‘villain’ in the trailer. He’s the one clearly in the wrong and is even called out on that by Alfred. Meanwhile we see Superman saving people. Of course the world has a question mark on him but he’s still been heroic. 2. The newspaper Bruce looks at with the writing on I actually think that may be in his imagination there and then he’ll go to the cave look at the Robin suit and we’ll get the flashback of Joker killing Todd. 3. Eisenberg looks great as Lex to me, I actually think your problem with him is that they didn’t go with what you wanted. Which seems to be a critiscm shared by others, because they didn’t go with who they wanted or the characterisation they wanted. I think he’s going to knock it out the park. Chance A. Pates It depends from what perspective you’re looking at the trailer. I believe that Superman is made to look like the villain. The battle between Superman and Zod left a lot of destruction and killed nearly 5000 people. While Superman did save the planet most of the world views him as an outsider. The world isn’t sure what he’s intentions really are. Like Bruce says is the trailer, Superman has the power to wipe out the entire human race. All Bruce is thinking is that two aliens caused of this destruction and he must be stopped. So I don’t see it as Batman as the villain. These are two men fighting the same war but they just don’t know it yet Bob Marshall Like you said it depends what perspective and from mine Batman definitely comes across more of a villain than Superman. Even Snyder said so in the Empire article.