Television Weekly Ratings Roundup: September 20 to 26, 2015 written by Robert Reineke September 23, 2015 Well that was a fast summer as the fall television season has started up again. This season doesn’t appear like it’s going to have quite the drama of last season ratings-wise, unless the likely slow, painful attrition of ratings for GOTHAM and AGENTS OF S.H.I.E.L.D. counts as drama, but I’m sure we’ll find things to talk about. Like, how big is the premiere of SUPERGIRL going to be? Has THE FLASH peaked or does it have something left in the tank? And, can GOTHAM and AGENTS OF S.H.I.E.L.D. survive, whether through the magic balm of promised syndication land or by actually stabilizing? First out of the gate this season is GOTHAM which delivered a 1.6 rating in the 18-49 year old demographic and 4.57 million viewers. That 1.6 rating isn’t great, especially for a season premiere, but going up against premieres of THE VOICE and THE BIG BANG THEORY as well as competing against the NFL means it’s at least a respectable number. I think we all have our doubts about it holding those numbers though and I expect something more along the lines of 1.3 by midseason if not sooner. Considering all the good buzz SUPERGIRL seems to be getting, the upcoming head to head matchup looks like it could be painful for Fox. Unless GOTHAM really manages to hook people again, so how was the premiere? Still, it’s one of the few hours where Fox is at least competitive in their time slot. That ought to get a few season out of GOTHAM. It’s no EMPIRE, but it’s not like Fox has a ton of shows waiting in the wings to take its place. They have much bigger problems on their schedule, like MINORITY REPORT which looks like it should already be making plans to wrap itself up at the end of its initial order. I expect we’ll be seeing LUCIFER following GOTHAM in January. Next week, the roll out of returning shows continues as AGENTS OF S.H.I.E.L.D. makes its season 3 premiere. The good news is that it looks like THE MUPPETS has managed to attract a good audience early. Whether THE MUPPETS can hold onto that audience in week 2 and whether that audience will carry over to AGENTS OF S.H.I.E.L.D. are open questions. But, those questions give us something else to ponder and predictions to make. Weekly Ratings Roundup: September 20 to 26, 2015 was last modified: February 20th, 2016 by Robert Reineke Related GothamRatings 9 comments 0 Facebook Twitter Google + Pinterest Robert Reineke previous post Open Forum: Maze Runner: The Scorch Trials next post AGENTS OF S.H.I.E.L.D. Is More Marvel Than Ever In Season 3 You may also like Review: HANNIBAL – Season 3, Episode 2... June 12, 2015 Weeky Ratings Roundup: February 8 to February... February 18, 2015 Review: HANNIBAL Season 3, Episode 13 “The... 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Maybe it’s because wherever you look on the show, there’s no Batman. But they sure are pushing the Rise of the Villains, which to me just reverses the order of their importance while giving you no real reason for their existence. And this version of the Joker? No thanks. I guess my own versions of these characters are too entrenched for me to be interested. And there’s no Batman. Gregory Walsh As a noob author studying the craft of writing, Gotham is a failed premise right from the start. The city has to fail to create Batman. Very few people are going to watch that knowing they can never see the rise. In a sense it had to be Breaking Bad: Gotham. Maybe you would have to have a good man break bad, and become a major villain of batman years into the show. But that requires patience, something not usually seen on broadcast TV, near perfect execution, and a willingness to break canon. But I still get at a commercial level why FOX bought in. It’s batman. Maybe it hits. And if it does not we just bring the joker early. Matthew Malecki I’m really looking forward to The Flash and Agents of SHIELD. My top 2 network shows. I hope both of them can keep going strong for years to come. Followed by Arrow (I know, I know) and Agent Carter. I’m definitely going to give Supergirl a chance. I’m hoping its good. I gave up on Gotham after 7 or 8 episodes last year. It has some positives going for it, and maybe I’ll watch it again at some point…but that’s not my Gotham. Kerry Vanderberg I only watched the final 10 minutes of the season premiere of GOTHAM, and already my reaction was, “Still sucks. Pass!” The season finale made me so mad last year, as it was just SOOOO terrible!! I hated everything about that episode, but it was the fact that I stuck through the entire season faithfully with no sense of reward is what pissed me off the most. Monday night I watched BLINDSPOT and MINORITY REPORT, and thoroughly enjoyed both of those. When SUPERGIRL comes out, I will definitely be checking that one out. I have a pretty good feeling overall for that show. I’m gonna skip ARROW this season too. I didn’t like last season, especially after Season 2 was so dang good! The only thing I’m interested in is seeing Neal McDonough as the villain, but I worry that he’ll be another wasted opportunity. I am definitely excited for the return of THE FLASH and AGENTS OF SHIELD, as those were neck-in-neck for me for being last year’s best shows. Matthew Malecki Yeah. At this point one of the main reasons I keep up with Arrow is because of the continuity between Arrow and The Flash. There are some things I like about it, but overall it has a lot of issues. And honestly, I didn’t keep up with the first two seasons of Arrow until I heard that Barry Allen was going to show up. Then I caught up on Arrow and like most of the first 2 seasons. Season 3 was bad, overall. Despite all the issues I have with the writing, my biggest complaint is the characterization of Oliver Queen. Is he the hero? He doesn’t act like it. He kills and doesn’t exhibit a lot of remorse. Killing for good reasons is still killing. Kerry Vanderberg They do address that in Season 2 of Arrow, but Oliver never 100% sticks to it. Here’s my theory. The showrunner’s of Arrow and Flash always wanted to do The Flash, but WB wasn’t sure about that in the wake of Green Lantern, and asked them to do a “Batman” show, but without Batman. So they chose Green Arrow while nixing “Green” from the title. And they ended up making a pretty good show out of it, especially season 2. Then once the WB execs were happy with the results, they allowed the showrunners to finally go and make the Flash, and so they put all their focus on that show, while coasting with Arrow and leaving it in the hands of their lower-tiered writers and directors. Now it seems like Arrow is going to move further away from being a “Batman-without-Batman” show (partially because Fox has their version of it now) and be more fun and bright than it has been. Now those showrunners can do what they want, and are being given opportunities to do more with SUPERGIRL and LEGENDS OF TOMORROW in the work by these same guys. Clearly they wanted to get into the more crazy aspects of the DCU. Good for them, but unfortunately it came at the cost of Arrow which went from good (season 1), to great (season 2), to terrible (season 3). With all these other options now, I’m happy to skip Arrow and catch up every few weeks if I feel like it. Matthew Malecki I agree with your theory. And that leads me to my biggest worry about Berlanti, Guggenheim, etc. doing all of these different shows. If they could barely do The Flash and Arrow really well…how are they going to do 4 shows really well at the same time.