Television Weekly Ratings Roundup: October 11 to 17, 2015 written by Robert Reineke October 19, 2015 Baseball playoffs and the Democrats’ Presidential Debate combined to put a damper on post premiere ratings. But, nobody ever said that it would be easy or non-competitive on television. GOTHAM is still hanging in there in a tough, competitive slot with a 1.5 rating in the 18-49 year old demographic and 4.17 million viewers. While I’m sure Fox would like better, GOTHAM keeps them relevant on Monday night. Unlike MINORITY REPORT which is crashing and burning and would probably get cancelled if it was on the CW. GOTHAM is piling up on my DVR, so I don’t know if I’m missing any sort of improvement, but at least it seems to have something of a direction this season with its Rise of the Villains titling. Still, without Batman to play off of, it feels like a key component of the villains’ rise is missing, albeit The Penguin in a bit of a cartoony version of THE SOPRANOS does have some interest. I expect some attrition, but I think it’s strong enough and Fox has few enough options that GOTHAM looks like it will return for season 3, albeit it is still very early. The Presidential Debate and MLB Playoffs were much watched on Tuesday night, making THE FLASH garnering a 1.4 rating in the 18-49 year old demographic and 3.49 million viewers solidly impressive. THE FLASH actually finished second in its timeslot, with THE MUPPETS tumbling again. Renewal for another season is merely a formality at this point. Anytime a show on the CW cracks the top three, that’s a big win for the network. Not to mention, we got our first extended look at Jay Garrick in live action, our first look at Zoom, introduction to Patty Spivot, the recreation of a classic cover, and a look at Earth 2 Harrison Wells. The premiere may have felt a bit like wrapping up season 1, but this felt like the proper introduction to season 2. I’m looking forward to the ride. AGENTS OF S.H.I.E.L.D. didn’t weather the competition that well this week falling to a 1.4 rating in the 18-49 year old demographic and 3.74 million viewers. Considering it lost viewers from its lead in, that’s a sign of some continued weakness. Obviously, the 1.4 rating isn’t terrible, that’s right in line with GOTHAM and THE FLASH, but it does point to some softness in its viewership’s dedication. Still, ratings would have to collapse massively for AGENTS OF S.H.I.E.L.D. not to get renewed with magic syndication dollars in reach. Others are going to have to comment on how AGENTS OF S.H.I.E.L.D. is stacking up this season, but the general consensus seems to be that the latest episode of the season was less well received than the first two, with non-existent chemistry for a forced love plotline being a common point of criticism. Personally, I’m skeptical that trying to mine X-Men territory will resonate as well considering that big budget, well received X-Men films are fresh in people’s minds. iZOMBIE also took a hit on Tuesday, tumbling to a 0.5 rating in the 18-49 year old demographic and 1.22 million viewers. Even for the CW, those are low numbers. I expect the show will bounce back with less competition, but you’d like to see better numbers than that. Fortunately, the critical response is good and the fans seem pretty dedicated. I don’t know if the show will continue to follow THE FLASH indefinitely, but it probably can survive if it bounces between 0.5 and 0.7 in the ratings. Finally, ARROW avoided the Presidential Debate and posted a 1.0 rating in the 18-49 year old demographic and 2.50 million viewers. Before THE FLASH, that would make it the top rated show on the CW. So far, the latest season seems to be better received than the previous season. And, it’s somewhat notable that GOTHAM hasn’t apparently grabbed all the Batman villains. Again, this show is very safe and looking to bask in syndication money after this season. There are no Presidential debates this week, so we should have a better idea of where the shows currently stand post their season premiere hype. Sports is a big part of the television landscape, so the shows will just have to deal with that. Creating their own hype through storytelling and mining of the source idea for fresh ideas is part of the challenge for these shows and this week is a good test case for their ability to do so. Weekly Ratings Roundup: October 11 to 17, 2015 was last modified: February 20th, 2016 by Robert Reineke Related Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.ArrowiZombieRatingsThe Flash 3 comments 0 Facebook Twitter Google + Pinterest Robert Reineke previous post New STAR WARS: THE FORCE AWAKENS Poster Today, Trailer Tomorrow next post Watch The STAR WARS: THE FORCE AWAKENS Trailer (Again And Again!) 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At this point I think the signs are pointing toward this being the final year, with two new marvel shows on the horizon plus rumors of Star Wars shows coming. For me, I would expect this to be the final year, and if we get another it will be a nice surprise. Robert Reineke While I wouldn’t count on syndication if the ratings were really dour this season, like if it was regularly posting ratings 1.0 and below, the ratings it receives are still on the right side of the very low cancellation bar. Syndication matters enough that if it’s still in the ballpark, a renewal of a show that is owned by ABC’s parent company can be objectively justified as a sound business decision. ABC’s had less reason to renew Nashville. You don’t sell toys based on Nashville. I have some concerns about AoS this season, the lack of guests on the caliber of Bill Paxton, Kyle Machlachlan, or Edward James Olmos to bring in anybody that’s not already on board, for instance. AoS has also struggled in the past to sustain their storylines over the course of the year. And there are subtle things like the lighting on the show and the lack of a vibrant color scheme that don’t really sell the show as what attracts people to Marvel’s movies. But, at the end of the day, I have a hard time seeing AoS finishing the year with an average rating much less than 1.3 to 1.4 even if there is some expected attrition. If that was the first season of the show, you probably cut bait. With syndication looming, you can justify one more season. Gregory Walsh Hope your right. And your observation of the inability to sustain a story for a season is justified in my observation. Hell, arrow and flash suffer the same problem. I keep imagining all those shows cut down to 13 to 16 eps and only imagine then much stronger for it. I could see them going to a 13 episode 4th season (maybe 5th season) to end the show. With 13 eps of a new show in the spring.